Also On This Episode

This episode features a clip from The Local's podcast Sweden in Focus where Richard Orange talks about the country's generous paternity leave and the effect it has on families. There's also a clip from Bill Maher's not-so-great podcast Club Random where Penn Jillette talks about evolutionary love for one's children. Nick Cave also reads a response he wrote to a fan who was concerned about bringing a child into the world in its current state on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. There are also birthday greetings to September babies from Tiktoker Soupy Garbage Juice (he’s released the full song but I didn’t realize it until too late to include the whole song on the show, also Ansel didn't turn out to be born in September. Doh!). And while not mentioned in the episode, I highly recommend Ric Burns' documentary about Ansel Adams.